Hello, I would like to tell you about an event that has happened to me and my family as of lately, A few months back me and my family had a falling out with our previous landlord, as a result we where forced to move. Now the landlord had made claims that we where not paying rent, but we had a verbal agreement that I would work for him, in exchange for rent, when that was no longer good for him, we had to leave, now when we left we cleaned, me my fiancee and her mother clean the home, there was a few items left, tho i told him that he could have his junk man haul the items away, other then a few thing that we (being our 2 kids had broke) had damaged, and that he was aware of, the home was as we attained it. We left as we had found new residence in Everett. A few weeks after we had moved into our new home, we where visited by B.C.C&Y.S, with claims that we where not watching our two boys and that they mite be in danger of harm, the case worker informed us that she had been tho our last home and that is was completely destroyed and that she need to see is we where allowing the same thing to be going on in our new home. We explained that there was no way that the home was left like that because we had cleaned it . She then told us that she had pictures of the said mess, yet did not produce said pictures. It was at that point that I recalled the old landlord calling B.C.C&Y.S on another past renter of his after they had a similar eviction from him, I witnessed him calling B.C.C&Y.S and other agencies to get the mother of one in trouble because he feel that he was wronged. Well the B.C.C&Y.S case worker finished her visit, told us there was nothing really wrong with the home and that just as a normal procedure, would have to come back for one or two more visits to “follow up” the case. She left and all was fine, at least we thought. A week and a half passed and we where visited again from the case worker, I was half asleep on our love seat when she came, I heard her talking to my fiancee saying and i quote ” well every thing looks fine, in a week or so I’ll be back one more time to close the case.” my fiancee replied “OK, while your here would you like to see there room again?” Now here where it gets messed up. The case worker stepped into the room and noticed that there was crayon on the walls, a few days before my boys sneaked a few crayons into there room at nap time and proceeded to draw on there walls, we didn’t care at the time because we had asked the new landlord if we could paint the walls and was told we could, so we figured when we could afford the paint , we would, and that there was no real harm, there was also a few spots where our youngest had made a mess with some dirty diapers that was still slightly visible due to the type of wall it was , which we cleaned up as soon as we noticed them. Nothing that most parents haven’t had happen to there own kids. The case worker then started talking about how well in light of these new findings, that she would have to recommend that we attend parenting classes and have to have more visits by her. That’s when I spoke, noticing that my fiancee was getting upset , that it was time for her to leave my home, she told me no, and that’s when my fiancee told here to leave, that if she wanted to see anymore that she would need a court order to do so, the woman said fine I’ll go get one, she returned later with a local constable to try to intimidate her will upon my family, when the constable was informed that the case worker had no court order and was asked to leave by us earlier he replied “I’m a constable, not a court order!” and then left. About a week and a half goes by and today about noontime we get another knock on our door, this time it was the Everett chief of police, the case worker and her supervisor. I was informed of who he was and the two other people where, and that they where there for a “Welfare Check” I was asked if I could let them in to see my children, I informed him that my name is not on the lease, that I’m not the payer of the household bills and I could not let him in without asking the person that was. I then asked them to wait at the bottom of the steps, for we leave on the second story of a building, to get my fiancee, he told me to “just yell for her.” I then asked if they had a court order or warrant, he replied ” I do not need one for a welfare check.” he then again asked me to “just yell for her.” I told him that she was asleep on our love seat, that i would go get her, i started to move up the steps when he grabbed my arm and told me that ” He would just come to the top of the steps then.” I told him no , that she was asleep and mite not be decent. He totally ignored me as started to try to follow me again. I then repeated that i would like them to stay outside and downstairs. He then told me “if you do not let me in , I will arrest you for impeding in this investigation.” I was basically threaten with imprisonment if I did not let them in without a warrant or court order. We went upstairs where the noise of the chief woke up my fiancee, after getting off of work at 7 am, and was coming to see what the noise was about, after seeing who it was, she informed me to contact the Bedford County Free Press, to be a third party witness. So now to the title of this little post. The actions of the B.C.C&Y.S is very similar to the actions of another agency back in the late thirties that use there over power to enforce there will upon there public, most people remember the short name of this group, the “S.S” or “Gestapo”. A government funded policing agency that could “operate without judicial oversight” and “to misuse was called protective custody, a euphemism for the power to imprison people without judicial proceedings.” I.E to rather take your kids or to even place you in jail as regards to the B.C.C&Y.S. The Gestapo(Aka the B.C.C&Y.S) was specifically exempted from responsibility to administrative courts, where citizens normally could sue the state to conform to laws. For example getting real police to force there way into your home to tell you how to raise your kids, or even take them. Without Proper papers and with threats of imprisonment. In closing something has to be do about this over use of power, In cases where it is fully warranted, I completely understand, when the welfare for the children are in danger, but where there is no merit they should stay out. This is why our great government has a system of checks and balances, which at this point B.C.C&Y.S has none
J.J.L
FREE PRESS NOTE
I WAS CONTACTED SEVERAL WEEKS AGO BY THIS COUPLE WITH THEIR COMPLAINTS I WAS GIVEN THEIR ADDRESS AND TOLD I COULD STOP BY WITHOUT WARNING WELL I DID JUST THAT, AND I DID NOT FIND ANY PROBLEMS IT WAS A TYPICAL HOME WITH 2 SMALL CHILDREN. WELL TODAY THIS COUPLE CALLED ME WHILE TODAYS EVENT UN-FOLDED, I HAD TOLD THEM IF THEY COME BACK TO CALL ME SO I COULD DOCUMENT WHAT HAPPENED. WHEN I GOT THERE THE FATHER TOLD EVERETT POLICE THAT HE WANTED ME THERE TO DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. EVERETT POLICE WOULD NOT LET ME STAY AT THE REQUEST OF THE PARENT I WAS TOLD TO WAIT OUTSIDE, EVERETT POLICE FOLLOWED ME OUTSIDE AND TALKED TO ME FOR A FEW MOMENTS, I ASKED HIM IF CHILDREN AND YOUTH OR THE EVERETT POLICE HAVE A WARRENT TO JUST FORCE HIS WAY INTO THIS COUPLE APT HE SAID NO. HE WENT BACK INTO THE APT AND I STOOD OUTSIDE THE DOOR AT THE REQUEST OF THE FATHER AND LISTENED TO THE CRAP C&Y WAS TALKING. THEY WANTED THE PARENTS TO SIGN A PAPER TO AGREE TO FAMILY MEETING WITH C&Y I PLACED A CALL TO THE FATHER AND ASKED HIM TO COME OUTSIDE. I ADVISED HIM TO NOT SIGN NOTHING AND AGREE TO NOTHING. BOTTOM LINE IS THIS. C&Y WAS AT THIS PLACE BEFORE AND KNEW EVERYTHING WAS OK. FOR THEM TO PULL A POWER PLAY AND CALL EVERETT POLICE TO ASK FOR HELP ON CHECKING ON THE WELFARE OF THESE CHILDREN WAS BOGUS. EVERETT POLICE LEFT WITHOUT THE CHILDREN TELLS US WHAT?
ALL I HEARD FROM C&Y WAS WHEN THIS COUPLE SHOULD DO THE DISHES, AND WHEN THIS COUPLE SHOULD PUT THEIR KIDS TO BED, AND WHEN THIS COUPLE SHOULD CLEAN THE APT, I DID NOT HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THE CHILDREN BEING ABUSED OR MOLESTED, WHO IS C&Y TO TELL ANYONE WHEN TO CLEAN THEIR APT. AND WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH C&Y TELLING THIS COUPLE THAT THEY DONT WANT A THIRD PARTY LIKE ME PRESENT DURING ANY VISIT, WOW C&Y WAS VIOLATING THIS COUPLE’S RIGHTS LEFT AND RIGHT TODAY. AND WHEN THEY WERE LEAVING IN THE PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF EVERETT POLICE. I ASKED FOR THEIR CARDS AND WAS TOLD THEY DID NOT KNOW ME SO THEY WOULD NOT GIVE ME A CARD. OK I THOUGHT THEY ARE PUBLIC WORKERS SO NOW C&Y ARE A PRIVATE CLUB THAT THEY DONT GIVE YOU A BUSINESS CARD UNLESS YOU KNOW THEM. THEY ACT ON BS PHONE CALLS THEN LATCH ON TO YOU UNTIL YOU HAVE TO FIGHT THEM IN COURT. WHAT I SEEN TODAY WAS A JOKE AND I WILL BE CONTACTING THE STATE. WE NEED PEOPLE TO COME FORWARD IF THEY ARE HAVING THIS SAME TYPE OF PROBLEM WITH C&Y
FREE PRESS ” CAMERAMAN “






#1 by m.a.d. on August 2, 2010 - 2:29 pm
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i find this whole thing to be a farce i have had dealings with cys years ago over my grandchildren they can be and are a pain where a pill can’t reach. they say things like a child that age can’t do this or can’t do that and when asked who said a child that age couldn’t do something they (cys) say the book says well i say the book needs to be written by a parent as everychild developes differently and for them to call in the town cops is rediculious. the everett cheif of police treats this town as his own little throne and he’s the king or so he thinks. something needs to be done with cys and town cops like these. they will take a child out of a home because they say there are problems but when there realy is a problem they leave the child there until it’s almost killed or is killed.
#2 by FREE PRESS " CAMERAMAN " on June 19, 2010 - 9:16 am
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i want to explain what happened to all the comments regarding ” stop child abuse ” they have contacted me asking me to remove the comment they posted for it was causing problems with people dealing with the real facts
the bottom line is this
their is still an open investigation it is not closed, police are still looking into the abuse claims
the father DID sign away rights but during a revised request ( which was the father’s ) new papers had to be drawn up and re-signed, now the father is refusing to sign
if all the people involved cant deal with reality that is their problem
no further comments will be approved on this issue until the investigation and visting rights are settled
and just for the record to the father & friends, i have been told i should watch my back with your bunch
my advice to you is deal with your family issues and dont make things worse by crossing my path, you have enough to deal with
i will be following this story and will be in contact with stop child abuse if the father wishes to be civil and contact me i will hear what he has to say and give him a chance to have his say
i do not want to hear from his friends, i want to hear it from the father himself
freepress@bedfordcountyfreepress.com
#3 by stopabuse on June 13, 2010 - 11:16 pm
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And cameraman like I said before you give others confidence and the will to stand up for there rights. God Bless you and Thank You
#4 by stopabuse on June 13, 2010 - 11:14 pm
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When my children were younger my home was what some might call messy but it was clean and and safe for my children. I had dirty dishes in my sink all day long until they would go to sleep I would do the necessary cleaning. As for writting on the walls I was just lucky to own my own trailer I guess and since I have had the walls covered with primer and then wallpapered. Primer does wonders, So to me it seems like someone is just a trouble maker of a landlord that has nothing better to do then to try to cause trouble for a family that are trying to raise there children. I always thought I don’t have the time to always be cleaning there were more important things to be doing during the day like feeding and playing with my two children. Things are hard enough in this world then to cause pain and suffering for others especially children.
As for Children and Youth I could write a book as many others could. There are good and bad. I can honestly say that they have helped me and my children in the past when i asked them for help and I was was just lucky to have gotten a caring case worker that knew what they were doing and they did follow the laws, in this case I feel sorry for this family because they were unfortionate to have what I call a bad one.
When CYS came to my home on a false report I had gotten a “bad one” a very rude young case worker came into my home sat on top of my floor model tv, was very rude and told me I had to take a drug test which I would have passed it but I told her to get the He” out of my home and get a court order I would have been nice to her but she came to my home accusing me of the lies that were reported by someone that was with my ex, and was very rude to me and went to my childrens school before even contacting me first and making my children upset.
on false reports from someone that just wanted to try to cause trouble for me and and at the time was dating my ex which was indicated for the sexual asualt of my child.
I went to CYS and they did investigation and indicated him. That was many years ago but with my childs young age at the time the therapist said that to take it too court would be too hard for my child. Also my laywer also told me that they could get supervised visits and eventually get unsupervised,to make a long painful story short i took the matter into my own hands and the man that i was friends with and at the time was dating agreed to marry me and I had his parental rights terminated and he adopted my children and has loved them as his own to this day even though we are no longer living together, we are still close friends and he has helped me protect my childen.
My children are teenagers now and doing good I did and will do whatever I need to do to protect my children and other children.
WHEN THE C & Y SYSTEM IS DONE AND USED CORRECTLY IT ISN’T A BAD SYSTEM I do agree with m.c.a and I also agree that there are case workers that abuse the system and I agree with RGK that it is a waste of tax payers money and John/Paul whatever whats up with you I was always told and do believe that being pushy gets you know where and to treat others with respect and that we all are protected by the constitution even preditors until proven guilty. How do you get to the truth by doing these people like they were done ? and what gives this case worker and police to enter someones home without a warrant ? What do you have hiding in your closet ?
Most important what about the children ? What are yous all thinking not the best interest of the child I see and over writings on a wall.
#5 by m.a.c. on June 11, 2010 - 6:18 pm
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you know what i find funny about john/paul or whatever his name is. he has to hide behind a false name to hide who he is. rather than at least use his initials or something real about himself.
and if he wants something for thinking that he is some sort of private investagator about my life and my family. the reason that i sleep on a loveseat is because i blew my back out in high school because of gymnastics and i have to have something that gives more support than a mattress does. and as for you and your wife working hard to get what you have. welcome to america, welcome to a life of medicocrty because that’s what you are. money and a mortage doesn’t make you happy, and it doesn’t make you better than anyone else. what makes you happy is the love that is in your house. it sounds to me as though you are no more than a material person who likes to prey on what others lack. in this case you are pretty much condemning us because we are working our way out of a rut, and doing the best that we can. and i will say again, WHEN THE C & Y SYSTEM IS DONE AND USED CORRECTLY IT ISN’T A BAD SYSTEM!!!!!!! maybe i have to capitalize it for you to understand it. remember what goes around in life comes around. not that you need to know anyways, the landlord at our present location knows about the crayon on the walls and they told us to paint over it, because they’ve raised children and they know what they do things that are not always coothe. and if you think that in someway that you are going to back me down from continuing my fight against wrong treatment of families by children and youth you are dead wrong. i have more strength and will to do things that you know and i know what the laws states, and guess what? the manner of which they handled things was indeed ILLEGAL and a violation of civil rights. look it up for yourself. a police officer forcing his way into a house on just the word on someone else whether it be a state or public agency is breaking and entering among other charges because they do need paper work in order to get into a house. it’s called illegal search and/or seizure. and that’s constitutional right that was violated. if you think that you are talking to someone who hasn’t done the research you’re wrong. and guess what if you knew you would know that once i set my mind to something that i don’t stop until it’s taken care of. i work my ass off to provide the best for my family. if that means that i do without a bed so that my rent is paid and my children have the best that they can. then guess what that’s called being a responsible and reliable parent. you don’t need to give them name brand everything in order to be doing good for them. my children are happy with a walk outside instead of taking them out to eat. it is the simple things in life that make a child happy. and what you said about having the children clean up the mess. i’ll be damned if anyone would give their child a bottle of bleach or any kind of toxic cleaner to clean with when they are three and two. and just the idea that you would make me think that maybe you shouldn’t have your children in your house, because if you are going to let your children have toxic chemicals that would put them in immediate danger of poisoning themselves. i could continue with this but as far as i’m concerned you are no better than them and think that what you say is the law. we have laws and guidelines in this country they are called the constitution and the legal system, before you post again maybe you should do a little research for yourself so that you know what you’re talking about so that i don’t have to sit here and explain a system to a person who should have more of a knowledge than i should.
#6 by John on June 11, 2010 - 4:37 pm
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Here is the real problem: You see yourself as a perpetual vitim of all these outside influences, not in your control. But it just isn’t the case. No C&Y have ever been involved in my life. Why??? Because I don’t live the way you do! I go to work and pay my rent (mortgage, but I didn’t want to brag).
I don’t break leases by allowing my kids to draw on walls. And if they did, because kids will be kids, I would have them clean the walls as soon as I saw the crayon!
I don’t have crap on my walls, ever!
I sleep in a bed! It is both comfortable, and is better preparing me for WORK the next day! This is a stable situation, one kids can learn from.
My wife and I are both on the lease (mortgage, sorry again)! Why??? Because we both have worked very hard to make sure we have good credit and we are a healthy team.
You set yourself up for failure over and over. You did at your first residence, and you are continuing the bad behaviors now. I promise you this can all be overcome by hard work, smart decissions, and maybe some help from other as far as teaching you how to parent and how to clean.
So stop crying. Stop asking others to sympathize with you, and start taking control of your surroundings. You will find everything else will fall into place!
#7 by John on June 11, 2010 - 4:28 pm
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Now I see the error of my ways! You are 100% correct, all of you!
How dare they! Afterall, the kids can take care of themselves! We need not protect them. Why would we, everyone in this country flies right afterall. There are never cases of abuse or neglect. And when there are, I am sure the parents come right out and tell the C&Y workers about it each and every time. So if they are every pushy, THEY ARE OUT OF LINE!
I didn’t even go into all the things I read in YOUR WORDS. Here are a couple that dont sound like you are the most well thought out parent:
You and your wife take turns sleeping on a love seat????
You work for rent, but that somehow falls apart?????
Kids break things and the landlord shouldn’t complain????
Someone mismanages the simple taks of disposing of dirty dipers to the point where an outsider can come in and see crap on the walls??????
You believe it is okay to draw on the landlords walls (you don’t own the house, and I bet your lease has language spelling out that writing on the walls is a no no)?????????
You believe paint will roll right over the wax of a crayon????
#8 by m.a.c. on June 11, 2010 - 4:05 pm
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john when children in youth is doing their job they are not a bad organization, but when they start to harass and use intimidation tatics to gain entry to a house that they themselves said does not have any “safety hazards” to the children that’s what this is about. we have the documents stating that and they still think that we need the parenting classes. if the home that we and our children live in was as bad as they were making it out to be then they would have had more ammuntion than they needed to come in and do something about it. but seeings as though even the chief of police came into the home and said that there was nothing wrong with the residence and that the children were healthy and safe why would they need to comeback and harass us.
but since you wanted to put it on blast, since you’re such a big supporter of children and youth, where were they when the four year old boy was caught at a Philly’s game drinking beer out of the bottle? their statement was that they could do nothing about it because it wasn’t reported to them. it was national news and there was nothing that they could do? HELLO!!!!! they can invade the privacy of someone’s home when it’s over crayon, but when it comes to something that is as important as an intoxicated minor or stopping child abuse or keeping a child away from the people that molested them they are not able to do their job. that says to me that they would rather waste the money that have been given by the taxpayers to go after little things than they would actually do their job and protect children from predators.
and to open your eyes a little more. when stop child abuse was trying to call them about her grandson, you know why there was no one there to talk to her. because they were too busy telling me that it’s not good housing cleaning for me to have dirty dishes in my sink. if they had any intent on being the organization that they were meant to be then what happened to that poor child would have never happened. so until the day that children and youth can do their job the way that they were meant to do and protect children from these predators there will still be an outcry of wronged people crying out for justice against them, and i’m sure that i’ll be standing there with them
mac
#9 by FREE PRESS " CAMERAMAN " on June 11, 2010 - 3:54 pm
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i received a phone call from the childline press person why they had their press person call me im still wondering but, this guy was more concerned that we are not a real news outlet and told me he visted the website and read the article and though it was no big deal, this moron spent more time questions my website more then anything, he was not concerned about the way c&y was dealing with cases, he also told me that if people want to complain they can call the hotline number that he was not supplying our site with any special email or contact information.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME !!!
#10 by J.J.L on June 11, 2010 - 3:44 pm
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I would also like to add that the event in question, the one where cys used the Everett police to force there way into the home was the 3rd visit, and that it wasn’t in till the 2nd when from some crayon on the wall and some stains of from where we did clean poop , that i would like to add was cleaned up from. on the walls, the poop is not coming from a diaper change but from the two year old taking it off and playing with it, and only started this after we started to finish up potty training the oldest . Now as for cys doing there job, i have no problems letting cys look at my home, we did twice, where the line was drawn was when they forced there way into the home after more then 2 visits and we felt like we where starting to be harassed by them,put it like this john say cys came into your home once, said everything looks OK we will be back once or twice more to just make sure, they come back and start with OK well looks OK, we should be able to say one more visit and we can close this, hold on there is crayon on that wall you need to take parenting classes, then after you tell them politely to leave, they come back twice, not once but twice to try and force there way into your home with law enforcement, no court orders or warrants or even a letter from a judge. would you as an American be OK with that, or would you stop and say hey wait a min. i do have some rights here and you are violating them . So john what would you do??
#11 by FREE PRESS " CAMERAMAN " on June 11, 2010 - 3:01 pm
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the reason no one made a comment on your article is because it has nothing what so ever to do with this county is that plain enough for you, different case, town, ect the list goes on on on, and please dont tell us how good c&y are they are complete joke what dont you get here ??, they are on a witch hunt like always, by the way you have not said a word about stop the abuse’s story about your hero’s from c&y
#12 by John on June 11, 2010 - 2:55 pm
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Funny, no one commented on the article I passed along. Philly farmed out the C&Y services to a private agency. They did what you people are suggesting, they stayed out of everyone’s business. Well they found a little girl, who was in the system, dead from bed sores and malnutritian. The director of the private firm was sentenced to prison.
If you re-read my comments, you will see I was not commenting on these people or this case, as much as I was saying the woman from C&Y was doing her job. There were some issues (no matter how little you want to make them) that deserved follow up. I didn’t read that C&Y wanted to take the kids. They wanted to make sure they were ok, and they wanted the parents to take a class to better them as parents. Sure doesn’t sound terrible to me.
The measure of a man has nothing to do with his diper changing history. But, just so you know, I have two kids. I worked at night, while my wife worked during the day, so I changed half of all dipers, if not more. I can honestly say, not once do I remember any waste getting on the walls. And if it did, just like if I spilled a pop, I would clean it up right away.
So, although crap on the wall is not unique, nor the end of the world, it could be seen as a symptom of problems. The woman from C&Y was told the family might have issues, then she finds a couple issues that she feels deserves follow up, and she follows up. Please don’t tell me how clean they are. Please dont tell how great they are. Please dont doubt my parenting experience. Just answer me this: What is bad about that woman, with the information she had, following up????
#13 by RGK on June 11, 2010 - 8:49 am
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John you are completely off base and totally nuts with the way you answered. It isn’t like there was shit rubbed intentionally up and down the wall and across the floor.
Their claims were fraudulent, sure if they would visit some of these other places in the county maybe, but not from what I saw. These people just moved to this location they have yet been able to paint the walls of their sons room. WHOA ! I might add that the landlord should have painted them before he rented to these people that paint is way out there.
I am sure that in the day of changing diapers you you probably didn’t help and they were most likely cloth diapers. So I see where you may be coming form with your statements. But John I gotta tell you we have moved up in the world with modern day disposable diapers and underwear called pull ups for those that are potty training. I myself have changed a diaper and then had to turn around to change yet another diaper and another. I had 3 in diapers at one time. So it is very easy to perhaps to forget to pick one up and see it at bedtime. I am sure you all have gone through that one time or another. So what is the big deal. It is just an honest mistake which may be a similar case here. John you make it sound like the kid was eating it off the floor but we all know that isn’t the case either.
These people aren’t dirty to begin with is what the problem is. This is C& Y using taxpayers money in the best most possible way, right? NOT. THIS TO ME is WASTEFUL SPENDING. If this is all they go around doing then we don’t need them. I say it is time to clean the house of C&Y by taking names and kicking some butt. Find out job descriptions for each person including the director, what wages are paid to these people and start cost cutting. The county now has a 26300.00 short fall. Let’s start in this office because it sounds to me like they are falling short of what this agency really needs to be doing. Stopping child abusers and molesters. If they can prove to do that then they may deserve a thanks but until they can prove they know their job, I say we need to eliminate some jobs not just a van driver! They need to be put on the hot plate for a while. In my opinion !
John seems you just don’t get the point of this whole article. Put your glasses on and read each line twice, or maybe you are a relative of the caseworker. I’m not sure yet. But no thanks to her she has opened a can of worms on that department now too. This is going to prove to be another interesting summer.
#14 by J.J.L on June 10, 2010 - 8:17 pm
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i would also like to disagree about John’s remarks, and that to let them know that not once has the been any mess in my sons room more then a few min.’s and that I keep a fairly good eye on my boys, What cys was complaining about was crayon and trace of waste, stains on a wall that has white in it and after scrubbing dose not look clean, but trust me is is as clean as it will get, we plan to paint the was so the crayon is not a big deal as for the stains there not real bad tho is visible, its still the fact that its not like there walls and floor is covered in sh!t. and for cys to say hey you need to take class after we have raised one child to the age of 3 with no problems and the other to two, to try and take our rights from us, is very very wrong, one of the other things that cys has stated in there letter is that there not show age appropriate behavior, but if you know who we are , then you have seem my kids out and about and you know they are some of the most polite, quiet and kind little tikes about. So in my strongest option cys is got there priority’s set backwards. And I think that stems from what they consider and quick and easy win, to make them look as tho they are a working and functioning department, that cases like the other one that has been talked about in this post, would” cost the department too much, and the risk for a win not great anuff” as is with most politically driven government departments. Time to clean house are restructure. But of course this is just my option.
#15 by FREE PRESS " CAMERAMAN " on June 10, 2010 - 6:09 pm
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i dont agree i sure hope every single parent is 100% perfect, because once c&y have you in the system you will never get out of it, let the parents raise their kids, funny everett police felt everything was ok, accidents happen everyday when you have children. and the comment send a thank you note along with the complaints is a joke, tell that to the family of ” stop child abuse ” and the 5 year old boy
#16 by John on June 10, 2010 - 5:43 pm
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I am not defending C&Y’s approach, but it seems to be they should be comended for their intent. I guess you can spin anything, but human waste on a child’s wall puts that child at risk. It doesn’t matter if it is only there a day or two, the bad things waste can do to the human body are serious. It sounds to me like this family needs the help of this agency. Why would C&Y giving you information on how to clean and the importance of cleanliness be a bad thing???? Again, they had no right to push their way in anywhere, and they should be held accountable. But thank god there are people like that woman. Her job is not an easy one!! Going to check out people in the possibly worst situations, in an effort to protect kids. Catching crap from parents left and right, when all she is doing is trying to insure safety. Maybe you should add a “Thank you” to your complaints. I bet you those two people are cleaner now than they had been. And the kids have that lady to thank for it.
Here is a link people might want to check out. It is a story about a neglectful C&Y person getting prison time for NOT FOLLOWING UP!
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20100610_Prison_term_for_manager_in_Danieal_Kelly_case.html
#17 by FREE PRESS " CAMERAMAN " on June 10, 2010 - 5:16 pm
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i want to give people an update on J.J.L and his family, they received a letter from c&y in which c&y wanted them to go through some bs program showing the couple how to be housekeepers.
so i placed a call to c&y and talked to bonnie and asked her about the policy about people not signing this agreement. if they dont sign it, c&y has to decide if this case is bad enough to report it to the next levil which would be harrisburg who would then give it to an office in hollidaysburg, who would then check in to the matter
bonnie also told me that c&y can not take children out of there homes without a court order signed by a judge. i would like to add that bonnie tried talking around everything but i wanted a bottom line answer
my advice to J.J.L and family is dont sign and agree to anything, let c&y decide is crying about dishes in the sink, ect bad enough of a case to report that you refused to sign the agreement. sending it to harrisburg
bedford county children and youth cameraman is watching and awaiting your next move
#18 by Savernu on June 10, 2010 - 12:35 pm
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As a young man, I’ve never fully trusted authority figures. As I get older, I still don’t trust them as far as I might throw them. This is just another sign of how power corrupts. Those with power attack the “little guy” thinking they can get away with it. Well they have to realize that there are a lot more of us little guys that there are those with power. By speaking out against them we take steps to put them back in there place! I say speak up and be heard!
I use to live in Everett and I know how corrupts the officials can be. Looking the other way so long as it supports their needs. What C&Y did here is little different. It upsets me that they can get away with violating peoples rights like this, and it makes me concerned for my family that still lives in Everett with younger siblings, a few niecphews, and countless friends with children, this sort injustice must be stopped.
#19 by jlaw65 on June 10, 2010 - 1:16 am
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Listen, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, report this and any kind of child abuse to the police FIRST!!!!!!! I cannot stress this enough. There are certain times when Children and Youth do not have to report things to the police.
#20 by FREE PRESS " CAMERAMAN " on June 9, 2010 - 8:10 pm
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i have contacted the number supplied by stop child abuse and they will be sending me contact information to post on this article for people to complain too, they told me they will be watching this article and will be reading the comments.
so lets give them something to read people !
#21 by Tisia on June 9, 2010 - 7:40 pm
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I am a great Aunt of the young boy being placed in the unsafe hands of his father and the family of the accused child . I am feeling like this system is failing more and more. I want to ask C & Y if my nephew has to end up dead before something is done. He has such a gentle character that is going to be ruined. This situation could cause him to have emotional issues for the rest of his life. One never knows what the long term effects of abuse can lead to. I can’t believe that C & Y is given proof after proof and still say it’s not enough.. I want this child to live a full life and I sincerely fear for his life. I wonder if, this was one of the C & Y workers family member, if they would treat this case like it has been treated. Shame on our C &Y……. how they sleep at night is my question…. We along with my nephew do not sleep…… shame on C & Y. SHAME……………………………….
#22 by RGK on June 8, 2010 - 3:27 pm
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Like most. They jump to conclusions before all the facts are presented. I know of people who have gone through the same thing. These kids do not look deprived of anything. Gee let’s see, seems they even have a t.v. in their room, lucky kids. SO what is the big deal about. Seems like C&Y has allot of time on their hands and go after someone who is trying their hardest to raise their kids in this world we live in.
They need to be concentrating on the molesters and abusers in this county, instead of trying to tell people how to clean their house ! What is up with that ! I have seen much more dreadful conditions with animal feces on the floors, and more, but this seems to be the case of retaliation on someone’s part.
In my opinion I think C&Y needs to be concerned about the above mentioned cases and build those cases to put those life threatening thieves away for life so they can never hurt anyone, or deprive them of a good quality of life that was gifted.
It is asinine to pick someone out, just to tell them how they should clean, and yet let these perpetrators live among the innocence of life, to scar and damage them beyond repair. Please !!!!! I could go on but this would become an article and not just a comment. This really burns me !!!!! So sorry these folks are being subjects to the cowards of the county !
#23 by J.J.L on June 8, 2010 - 10:39 am
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pics of the children’s room
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#24 by J.J.L on June 8, 2010 - 7:53 am
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hey jlaw65 he was not making a direct statement about bp, he was using them as an example, the subject is about cys, and we need to stay on topic about this one if we all could, thank you
#25 by Jlaw65 on June 7, 2010 - 11:22 pm
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What the hell does BP have to do with anything. For your information this president and HIS regulators signed off on NUMEROUS waivers for BP to bypass not only federal regulations, but BP’s own standards at this well. Check your news and facts before you post STUPID UNIFORMED comments!!
#26 by Kyle on June 7, 2010 - 6:47 pm
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I’m a close personal friend of the couple involved here, and I have to say that I am INCREDIBLY disturbed by these events. I’ve heard most of the story already, but I didn’t know all of this. That C&Y would pull a stunt like this and then REFUSE to produce paperwork and evidence that supports their actions is disgusting and immoral. But hey…WELCOME TO THE AMERICAN POLITICAL/JUSTICE SYSTEM. Where you can get away with anything you want, as long as you’ve got the cash and bully-boys to muscle your way through the little people who can’t stop you because you’ve got more money than them.
It’s this kind of mentality that allows the BPs of the world to continue to get away with substandard safety and health regs until they get into so much trouble that they put the entire damn Gulf of Mexico in danger of being decimated for the rest of the CENTURY!
I’ve been to this couple’s apartment, and I can’t say that any of it was even the SLIGHTEST bit unhealthy to raise children in. Yeah, it was a little bit on the messy side, but when you have two children under the age of seven, things are going to BE messy. As for the drawing on the walls with crayon? KIDS WILL BE KIDS. Thus it has been since time immemorial, and thus it shall CONTINUE to be. Children will draw on walls, and parents will either kill themselves scrubbing the walls, or they will paint over it.
Once more, I will say that I am absolutely appalled by the events described here. Children and Youth had absolutely NO RIGHT to do what they did, and if it were anyone else but these two, they probably would have gotten AWAY with it, too! I applaud my friends for standing up for themselves, their home, and most importantly, their CHILDREN. God bless them, and to HELL with who are trying to out-muscle them!